The ultimate Defrag Question has been finally solved !

[MidiMightyMoe]

Still doesn't understand that 43 ... 42 would be the answer, actually it's THE answer, but 43 just doesn't make any sense.

Ps : if someone could enlighten me on this 43 value though, I really don't understand it .

[khtti]

Still doesn't understand that 43 ... 42 would be the answer, actually it's THE answer, but 43 just doesn't make any sense.

Ps : if someone could enlighten me on this 43 value though, I really don't understand it .

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(mouse tic = whole numbers between -127 and 127) * (m_yaw * sensitivity) * (magic value = 65536/360)

I use m_yaw = .1, sensitivity = 1.7578125, so the smallest change in view angle I can produce is 32.
If w3sp uses sensitivity/m_yaw values that produce a minimum move of 43, all of his mouse moves will be multiples of that value. If his settings produce a minimum move value that can't be rounded accurately there can be other values than multiples of 43, but they will still follow a predictable rule.

If you're using a yawscript, or yawspeed, or other things, the angle deltas produced when strafing manually will fit a rule based on the above formula, but the angles produced by the script won't, and you'll be busted.

etc etc, anyways WRT: "cheats" in Freestyle,
It's in the name, if you want to apply qualifiers you must advertise this, don't expect it to be automatically inferred if you don't.

edit:lol oops

[Anyone_Under_This_Rank_Is_n00b]

intern sens = m_yaw * sensitivity * 65536 / 360

sens = 23.37,
m_yaw = 0.0101072337

intern sens = 0.0101072337 * 23.37 * 65536 / 360 = 42,9999994322944 ~= 43

[$$-albion]

intern sens = m_yaw * sensitivity * 65536 / 360

sens = 23.37,
m_yaw = 0.0101072337

intern sens = 0.0101072337 * 23.37 * 65536 / 360 = 42,9999994322944 ~= 43

You make way too much effort to get 2337 into everything ;D ^^

[742617000027]

Hahahaha :D

[MidiMightyMoe]

Who said this post was not interesting ? Thx guys.

[SPACEFAGGOTBAR]

Still doesn't understand that 43 ... 42 would be the answer, actually it's THE answer, but 43 just doesn't make any sense.

hitchhikers <3

[AL!EN]

Since CGaz don't reply i make last words in this thread.

I asked gaz yesterday what your dubious quotes are about, he said he referred to yawspeeding and that YOU(alien) won't catch me yawspeeding.

I speak with him also and no, he doesn't referred to yawspeeding but he refuse to say/prove anything that will give a cheaters(who still play at mDd servers) a free tip. No more from me since i won't post private conversation. But since it was only for me, you can say whatever you want but now you cannot fool me again.

Hence it was NOT a cheat...although you want it to be accepted as one. You can't change the past.
It's the common way 3d shooters have been played. cl_yawspeed is companion piece to sensitivity if you want. It does to +left/+right what sensitivity does to mouse sensitivity.
That's why it's even perfectly valid in my opinion. The only thing that was reasonably forbidden is the automatic updating of the cl_yawspeed cvar to adjust for speed.
I've never seen anyone complaining about people in fraggames having different mouse sensitivities for zoom or different weapons...while it's exactly the same thing actually.

And where is a limit about how often you can change "sensitivity" ? There is no one and in fact you will abuse it. It might look legal but as it was proven , there will be no difference between static cl_yawspeed and a scripted one so it cannot be allowed in Defrag.

Defrag community have just bad luck that CGaz is you friend, that is all.

[gund3r]

i thought the ultimate defrag question was
"are you really the best?"

[<hk>]

i thought the ultimate defrag question was
"are you really the best?"

Indeed.
This one is more of a rhetorical question.